Nothing to see here. Just me and @daxshepard shooting the breeze about podcasts and the people who have done both our shows. It was mainly you @thefbinegotiator to be honest. But once you learn tactical empathy you can never go back, right?! 📸 @nat_michele #theemmagunsshow #armchairexpert #daxshepard #podcastshow #podcasting #podcast #podcastlife #podcaster #podcasting