When the crux involves a last move full span throw to a thumb catch well above your gear, and you really don't want to have to re-climb the R++ section off the ground. @zack_fisher has certainly got the try-hard passion. His belayer after catching the 60 footer: "you gona give it another go?" Ripple 13d R, Pine Creek June 10, 2020 6:37:14 PM