Big, audacious dreams come with real risks. The dreamers are presented with a labyrinth of possible outcomes, hurdles, and dead ends. Often, we are told that success comes down to positive thinking. Maybe there’s a flipside to that coin. Today we talk with Will Gadd, pioneer of modern mixed and ice climbing. Few people have thought about risk more than Will and he’s got a lot to say. We also get some insight from Brette Harrington.⁠ Hear @realwillgadd, @bretteharrington, and @alexhonnold at the Spotify link in our bio or wherever you find your podcasts. ⁠ ⁠ #climbinggold⁠ ⁠ @climbinggold is created by @ducttapethenbeer in collaboration with @alexhonnold.⁠ Made with the generous support of our title sponsor, @whoop. With additional support from @hydroflask, @athleticgreens, and @drinklmnt.